{"id":5868,"date":"2017-07-22T21:27:55","date_gmt":"2017-07-23T04:27:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5868"},"modified":"2017-07-22T21:27:55","modified_gmt":"2017-07-23T04:27:55","slug":"more-on-tech-hiring","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5868","title":{"rendered":"More On Tech Hiring"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-partner=\"tweetdeck\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Smart way to regain your power in an interview, especially when they are asking trivia questions. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/yUh2nVA0lS\">https:\/\/t.co\/yUh2nVA0lS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Scott Hanselman (@shanselman) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/shanselman\/status\/888956118348709888\">July 23, 2017<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-partner=\"tweetdeck\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Valid response to any interview question: &quot;can you tell me an example where you&#39;ve run into this issue in day-to-day work at the company?&quot;<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Justin Searls (@searls) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/searls\/status\/887410225577439232\">July 18, 2017<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=Indent>Technical interviews have fairly infinite ways of going wrong.  The tweets above reminded me of a few interviews I&#8217;ve had over the past seven months of job search, looking for a position that will keep me busy and happy for the next several years.  I&#8217;ve interviewed with some of the big guys, even going so far as to go up to Amazon in Seattle.  I&#8217;ve interviewed with startups.  I&#8217;ve interviewed with a variety of different industries, from retail data services to biotech, from health-care to nuclear cleanup.  I&#8217;ve interviewed in rural Washington State, Seattle, San Francisco, and Reykjavik, Iceland.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>Over the course of all of these interviews <small>(and literally hundreds of phone interviews)<\/small>, I&#8217;ve seen the extremes, in terms of technical interviews.  I&#8217;ve had companies try to rattle me into getting angry <small>(the Santa Barbara company &#8211; if you&#8217;re interviewing for a database company in SB, hit me up for the name, &#8217;cause you don&#8217;t wanna work there)<\/small> and be unable to answer the question they asked me <small>(some vague mumblings about there being a &#8220;math&#8221; answer doesn&#8217;t cut it)<\/small>.  I&#8217;ve had companies not ask me a single tech question <small>(Reykjavik: I think they&#8217;re so desperate for programmers that they&#8217;re willing to believe you have the skills you say you do)<\/small>.  I&#8217;ve had hours of algorithm and data-structure questions <small>(Amazon, and what a waste of all of our time <i>that<\/i> interview process was, when I told them up front that I basically do everything with a database if I can, and have no interest in the things they do there)<\/small>.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>All of these companies did some things better than others, and none of them was what I would call perfect.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>I think the thing they all missed out on, or could have emphasized more, was the human dimension.  Would I be happy there?  Would they have enough meaningful work for me to do?  Were they interested in any of the same things in which I&#8217;m interested?  Would I feel happy in a huge company, or in retail systems, or building parking solutions <small>(cool company, that one &#8211; but they&#8217;re in down-town SF, and walking over human excrement on the way to work just doesn&#8217;t do it for me)<\/small>?  These are things which I had to know about myself, but which they didn&#8217;t seem to think were important.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>If you&#8217;re going to sink $100K into a new hire <small>(when you figure hiring bonus, travel, relocation, training, and the first however-many months it takes them to come up to speed, this is maybe even a low estimate)<\/small>, you should figure out whether that person is going to be happy.  Yes, their technical skills matter somewhat, but they&#8217;re the least of the factors you should be examining.  You should be looking at whether they can learn, and whether they <i>want<\/i> to learn.  You should be getting a feel for them as a person, and what they&#8217;re looking for from the deal.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>Tech companies tend to focus on either computer-science fundamentals, or they focus on their own narrow set of coding gewgaws.  They don&#8217;t tend to get the actual human aspects in there except as an afterthought.  The problem is, this just isn&#8217;t how you build good teams, it isn&#8217;t how you get happy employees, and it isn&#8217;t how you get people who will stick with you beyond the next project.<\/p>\n<p class=Indent>The people who form a meaningful connection during the interview process, who feel valued and as if they&#8217;d continue to be valued, those are the ones you want to keep.  Sure, there may be some phenomenally bright programmer out there &#8211; so what?  If they can&#8217;t be part of the team, contribute towards the team&#8217;s goals, support their other team members, then you&#8217;ve got nothing worth having.  If you want good teams, you have to find good people whose goals align with those of your group.  You won&#8217;t find out about those goals unless you know your own goals and ask about theirs.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5609'>On Iceland<\/a> and <a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5617'>More on Iceland<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5736'>Psychological Testing a candidate?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5786'>Nope to Nuclear Clean-up<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5851'>My Amazon-inspired rant on tech hiring<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/?p=5863'>Where I&#8217;ve finally landed<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=Indent><i>-D<\/i><\/p>\n<div clear=both align=center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/wishiwerebaking\/5289427201\/in\/album-72157625539713559\/\" title=\"Reykjavik 69 HDR\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/farm6.staticflickr.com\/5282\/5289427201_5fc4b79df9_z.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" alt=\"Reykjavik 69 HDR\"><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Smart way to regain your power in an interview, especially when they are asking trivia questions. https:\/\/t.co\/yUh2nVA0lS &mdash; Scott Hanselman (@shanselman) July 23, 2017 Valid response to any interview question: &quot;can you tell me an example where you&#39;ve run into this issue in day-to-day work at the company?&quot; &mdash; Justin Searls (@searls) July 18, 2017 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":59,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5868","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rant"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5868","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/59"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5868"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5868\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5868"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5868"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hobbitsabroad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5868"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}